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for people accused of being too sleep deprived to drive. abc's ron claiborne wants to show you what happened to him. >> reporter: my eyes are open, but what you can't tell in this experiment, i'm actually asleep. every day an estimated 250,000 americans fall asleep while driving like this woman, who was videotaped seemingly nodding off at the wheel in denver. sleep-deprived drivers are blamed for thousands of crashes every year. but many times it's not that obvious. scientists say there's something called microsleep where you can fall asleep for just a few seconds without realizing it. sometimes with your eyes open. >> hi, i'm ron claiborne. >> reporter: we traveled to the liberty mute cal research institute outside of boston where they study microsleep. >> microsleep is a very brief transition from wakefulness to sleep, and it can last up to maybe 20 or 30 seconds. you're awake and suddenly asleep. >> reporter: i agreed to take part in an experiment. i would drive while sleep deprived. to mimic the condition of people who do not get enough sleep, i stayed up all night. >> i've been up for c
bernstein, and ron insana. you heard the speaker and his comments moments ago. this is good for the president, the jobs report, no doubt. he can argue that, my policies have been working, better tax hikes for the upper 2%, more amenable because the economy is coming along. how do democrats leverage this in the key cliff negotiations going on? >> i think the key point is that there is some momentum in the jobs report. the labor market diminished a little bit in december. that's why the unemployment rate fell down, not because of extra jobs. but all told, especially expecting sandy's damage, it was a pretty good report and it shows that there's some und underlying momentum. the argument from the president or from anyone who cares are this economic recovery, it would be a crazy time to throw a monkey wrench at an ongoing recovery that has a little bit of momentum. >> ron, to you on this. talking about sandy, there seems to be a lack of sandy effect as some had thought initially. we see a pullback, a little less than half of a percent. we have positive indications there that say
conservative leaders in the house. here now to try to make this weak case is ron meyer. ron, first of all, i want to say that i commend john boehner for his valiant attempts to stop the fiscal cliff and to make a deal without giving up growth principles. but when you say conservatives don't support boehner, what is eric cantor, what is paul ryan? what is jeb henesling if he's not a conservative? what is tom price if he's not a conservative? what exactly are you smoking? the top conservatives in the house support boehner. >> well, i actually don't think that somebody like tom price would if he has his choice of who he could pick out of everyone. we should have the power of self-determination. we shouldn't get seniority decide, this person should be the next person -- >> look. he is running the house. he's the speaker of the house. you confuse that with running the conservative movement. >> well, then why don't you come out and say, we shouldn't raise taxes. boehner came out and said we should raise taxes. >> i think boehner is doing the best he can to prevent marginal tax rates from rising. i
't get enough, thought we were more awake than we were. abc's ron claiborne took part in that experiment. >> reporter: my eyes are open, but what you can't tell in this experiment is i am actually asleep. every day, 250,000 americans fall asleep while driving. like this woman who was videotaped seemingly nodding off at the wheel in denver. sleep-deprived drivers are blamed for thousands of crashes every year, but many times it's not that obvious. scientists say there is something called microsleep. where you can fall asleep for just a few seconds without realizing it, sometimes with your eyes open. hi, i'm ron claiborne. we traveled to liberty mutual research institute outside of boston where they study microsleep. >> a very brief transition from wakefulness new sleep. it can last up to 20, 30 seconds. you are waking. you are asleep. >> i would drive while sleep deprived. to mimic conditions of people who do not get enough sleep. i stayed up all night. >> i have been up 24 hours. >> at the lab i was looked up to a brain wave monitor. i thought i could handle the driving. i feel okay now.
to tony blair, we're talking to democratic congressman xavier becerra, republican senator ron johnson from the state of wisconsin, also pat houston, whitney houston's sister-in-law and manager and jeopardy champion ken jennings written a new book. it's tuesday, december 4th, "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome everybody, you're watching "starting point." we're honored this morning to have the former british prime minister tony blair with us as our guest. he's going to be weighing in as a number of topics. we're going to talk about the fiscal cliff, we're going to talk about the global economy. we're going to talk about the civil war in syria. we'll talk about the royal baby coming soon. first we want to get right to zoraida sambolin for an update on the day's top stories. >> soledad, the fiscal cliff debacle, with 28 days remaining before drastic tax hikes and spending cuts take effect, a republican spending plan has been rejected by the white house. brianna keilar is live from washington. what now, brianna? >> well, right now it's about the pressure building and the clock kicki
will be signing when it reaches his desk likely tomorrow. joining me now nbc's ron mott live in lansing. ron, what is the latest, and how did this come to a head so quickly in michigan? >> reporter: it came together very quickly, andrea. good day to you. it's a cold day out here, but these folks are very fired up. they don't like the way that this legislation was pushed through the statehouse here. they believe that this was a republican strategy to go through a lame-duck session. they know they've got a little more democratic leaning legislature coming here next month, and they figure that this was the most opportune time to push this legislation through. a very small window of time to actually debate the issue, and then as you mention, tomorrow governor snyder is expected to sign this into law, making michigan the 24th right to work state. i spoke with the head of the chamber here in michigan just a few moments ago. he says that this is actually not only good for the worker, but also employers. this is going to make michigan a little more pro-business, that there are a lot of projects on the hor
's senior political analyst ron bram's team. thank you both for coming in. ron, you wrote an interesting column, i just read it, in the national journal about democrats having a more unified coalition after the election in november. what sort of negotiating advantage is that supposed to give them in the fiscal cliff situation. >> i think it's almost the inverse of what we saw in 2010 after big democratic losses in that election. the caucus was divided in the house and senate on whether to extend the bush tax cuts for everyone. republicans were unified, they insisted it be extended for everyone. president obama ultimately made a deal to extend them as you know, for two years for all taxpayers, which is how we are where we are now. democrats are virtually in lock step showing cracks, saying maybe we need to extend for those in the middle. it's a different circumstance. i think the leverage on the tax side, at least is clearly with the democrats, stalemates mean the tax cuts expired and democrats are more willing to live with that than republicans are. >> when you read between the lines her
that mimicked schizophrenia. dr. ron burke has been developing it glix-13. >> we found it has a very nice antidepressant effect, lasts for several days after a single sise, and with no side effects will of schizophrenia at all. >> reporter: in one study, patients taking an experimental drug had a 40% improvement in ymptoms compared to 24% on placebo. jim staples participated in the trial. ed iy hope is that the trial drug will, in time, be the last one i'll ever have to take. i take the drug for the rest of my life, but it might be the last one i have to switch to. >> reporter: the drugs are still in trial, and even if they continue to show promise, f.d.a. approval is still three to five eears away. >> pelley: thanks, doc. president obama continues a christmas tradition begun by calvin coolidge when we inntinue. um become "i can"? talk to your doctor. orencia reduces many ra symptoms like pain, morning stiffness and progression of joint damage. it's helped new ra patients and those not helped enough by other treatments. do not take orencia with another biologic medicine for ra due to an i
. the president called speaker boehner, my congressional add aides are going to meet with your people. what ron neighbors said tell us what you want after you agree to rates. the white house thought that was an accommodating conversation. the republicans interpreted that as seeking their humiliation. so even within the contours of conversations that are direct and face to face, there are wildly differing interpretations. >> republicans, by the way, know if boehner crosses that bridge, that it could be immediately leaped and get a democratic victory dance on rates without really getting serious on the other side. that's what the lack of trust causes in this process. >> schieffer: i guess in the final analysis, nothing is going to happen until the last minute of the last hour, though, it seems to me. >> and the closer we get to that, the smaller this becomes. by definition. you have to ride it small. it can only be digested quickly. the longer we wait and the closer we get the smaller the scope of the deal is. >> schieffer: i want to-- we can get back to this-- i want to ask you about some of the
and ultimately won re-election. >> the best is yet to come. >> long serving texas congressman ron paul decided not to seek re-election to focus on white house bid is one of several high profile members of congress that will retire this year. >> government gets bigger, the liberties are diminishing. >> barney frank and burton from the house, jon kyl, kay bailey hutchison, lieberman and nelson join members of the house and senate hanging up the congressional careers. 2012 also marked a milestone in implementation of president obama's healthcare law. in the 5-4 decision in june, the u.s. supreme court ruled a major crux of obamacare, the individual mandate is indeed constitutional. >> happy and pleased to put the supreme court ahead of partisanship. >> against the federal government that claimed map dated was violate of freedom. >> the republicans won't let up so what ever to repeal the terrible law. >> justices heard arguments from both sides and record-setting three-day hearing in march. at the time, it was unclear which way they were leaning. >> do you not have a heavy burden of justification
all the years and miles women and drugs. keith richards stillen jis drink or 3 but ron wood has been sober for years now and admits this tour is a real test of will power. >> if we white clarity and focus now. before it was eyes down and meet you at the end. oh, know-how are we going to get out of this. a little bit of that still goes on. >>reporter: so despite the struggle for so bright and band harmony they have discovered the real secret is simply doing what they love. retirement would be a death sentence. and there's know better fountain of youth than arena full of administer asian. >> why are you still together. i said because people like us. of course we love playing music together but you have to have both as part of the equation sorry, for those inclined to order saturday pay per view finale with bruce and lady gaga thinking this could be the last time keep in mind the tourist called 50 and counting. bill weir abc news new york. >> well lights hope they keep good. they were good. all the bands were. >> amazing seeing people in their 20's still licking band, guys who ar
of stuff, yeah. >> reporter: ron came all the way from texas to offer buffalo hats, and you sold how many? >> about 200. >> reporter: in what period of time? >> a week. >> reporter: a week? >> yeah. if you walk up and down the street here, you will see a bunch of them here in the next couple of hours. >> reporter: the market has also proven a great place for vendors to test products before opening traditional brick-and-mortar stores. >> without the burden of jumping into the deep end of the pool with rent and insurance and all of the heavy duty investment that you have to do. but once you know you're going to be successful, now can you go forward. >> reporter: and you have that happen here a lot? >> we have. we have. >> reporter: stalls are now so prized and space so limited, there is simply not enough room for all the vendors who want to be here. but for those who are chosen each year for a few lucky weeks -- >> let me just put it on there. >> reporter: -- the holidays are truly cause for celebration. >> oh, great, thank you. >> reporter: tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> and it is good t
-election. >> the best is yet to come. >> long serving texas congressman ron paul decided not to seek re-election to focus on white house bid is one of several high profile members of congress that will retire this year. >> government gets bigger, the liberties are diminishing. >> barney frank and burton from the house, jon kyl, kay bailey hutchison, lieberman and nelson join members of the house and senate hanging up the congressional careers. 2012 also marked a milestone in implementation of president obama's healthcare law. in the 5-4 decision in june, the u.s. supreme court ruled a major crux of obamacare, the individual mandate is indeed constitutional. >> happy and pleased to put the supreme court ahead of partisanship. >> against the federal government that claimed map dated was violate of freedom. >> the republicans won't let up so what ever to repeal the terrible law. >> justices heard arguments from both sides and record-setting three-day hearing in march. at the time, it was unclear which way they were leaning. >> do you not have a heavy burden of justification to show authori
constructive talks, i believe those are the quotes. i have with me, ron brown, cnn contributor. ron, it's not how it works in washington, the straight up-or-down vote. >> it hasn't for a long time. there are two separate things here. there's the filibuster in the senate. but the biggest obstacles is the hastert rule in the house. it has always been hard to see bill that a majority of house republicans would vote for that would be acceptable to president obama. so in many ways, i felt for really months, the only two choices were going over the cliff or abandoning that hastert rule and john boehner being willing to bring up a bill that could be passed by democratic votes, not passed by the majority of republicans. sounded a little more optimistic on the relative gauge we have than over the last couple of weeks. >> they're now running out of venues to discuss this. they discussed it at the white house. tried to get a deal between speaker boehner and president obama. now it's gone to the senate. harry reid and mitch mcconnell will try to work something out. after that, they have run out of
and compromise. >> let me play what senator ron johnson said on cnn just this morning regarding the president and what he says the president is not understanding here. let's play it. >> this president just simply doesn't understand that, and so as a result he punishes success. we put at risk the economic growth that we really need to create the jobs, to create the revenue we need. >> you hear some republicans, a senator saying that the president does not somehow get economic growth. a lot of them focusing in on stimulus money the white house wants as a part of this deal. what is your response? you've got polls that indicated the exit polling right after the election that most americans were in support of people who make over $250,000 paying a higher tax. they have confidence in this economy, perhaps the reason that your party saw success in the election. what do you make of this notion that, again, some republicans say the president doesn't get small business or economic growth somehow? >> well, i think the american people roundly rejected that. they think the president gets it. that's why th
boehner calling the white house fiscal plan a joke. senator ron johnson is on the budget committee. he joins us. good evening, sir. >> greta, how you doing? >> greta: very well, and calling the plan a joke, i guess he is not going to beat around the bush for us. >> unfortunately, greta, president obama pretty well holds all the cards in this negotiation. if he wants to have tax increases or tax rates go up, i don't see how republicans can stop him, you know, because everybody's taxes are going to increase if congress does nothing, and president obama is the only person that can sign a bill into law and quite honestly, senator harry reid is the only person in the senate that can pass a bill in the senate as well. it sounds like people like howard dean want everybody's taxes to go up. maybe we should feel fortunate that president obama only wants the top two% to g two percent t. >> greta: do you anticipate republicans will vote for a rate increase if this should come to a vote? >> i don't believe they'll vote for a rate increase. what we'll vote for hopefully is to extend the current tax
kicked down on an important piece of this. spending. i can tell you earlier today republican ron lamar said the president is not doing enough. >> we need two words. presidential leadership on not just taxes rich people, we can tax all the rich people and cut their heads up and it wouldn't help the medicare fiscal cliff. we need to do both and the president has to lead it it and if he does i'm ready to work with him and so are a lot of other republicans and democrats. >> lamar alexander demanding presidential leadership but also making that point that it's not just about taxes. it's also about spending, harris. >> harris: you and ed talk about -- you and i talk about the fact that we don't want to put too fine a point on the fact that there is acting that goes along with politics. what about the president's tone today? it sounded like he was angry. >> oh, yeah. i think from reading his body language and hearing his words as i have over these many years. you have to put into context of frustration he is feeling going back to the debt ceiling debate a year and a half ago. two summers ago
>>> a little rod stewart. looks good for 90. >> rob stewart? what, ron? >> exactly. thanks to medical advances and better health habits. americans simply are living longer. >> the guinness book of world record named a 115-year-old iowa woman the oldest woman. what is the secret to longevity? >> good morning, rob, paula. all this talk of age made me wonder how can we all live long and fantastic lives. >> all right. >> reporter: living forever, or at least living to 90, 100, even older is a dream that increasingly seems attainable. the big influencers have been genes, exercise and diet. but let's be honest. few are willing to give up meat and committee. for 100 years, eating green, levee vegetables whuflt at we ws a robust, long life. >> honey badger don't give a -- >> reporter: betty wife at 91 years young says it is not a restricted diet that kept her so lively all these year it is the constant activity. as far as diet goes she reportedly loves hot dogs and cupca cupcakes. but we can't all be betty white, or can we? scientific breakthroughs are throwing out the rules of old age. cynthia kenyan
to talk, all right. >> bill: hey, let's say hello to ron calling from chicago. good morning. >> caller: good morning, bill. good morning guys. >> bill: how are you? >> caller: good. i'm on my way to work. i want to make a comment about bob costas. he makes the comments. >> bill: bob costas, yes. >> caller: he makes the comments, what i think in the framework of caring about two people losing their lives. and they want to run him out on the rail and it was just a month ago richard mourdock makes comments, where was the outage he shouldn't even be allowed to run. just the difference of both sides is amazing to me these people that -- >> bill: well, yeah. sometimes it is just hard to explain. the inconsistency outraged about one thing and not outraged about another. when it comes to -- it is not surprising for the nra. this is their position. they've gone from an organization at one time which really did a great job representing hunters and saying you know, we've got our rights. we want to be able to contin
, but public at large. this was initiated by our friend ed reilly and ron brownstein of national journal and post the economic crisis, we decided to see what the american public perceptions were as to what was happening in their lives and the economy. and part of the notion over the years is, if you will, to sort of give voice to middle class and american public opinions as to what's happening with our economy and, in particular, their lives. we have conducted quite literally over 25,000 interviews, 25,000 over the last four years. so there's a positive story here of data which is extraordinary which is available at, it's available at allstate and the heart land monitor, and i really recommend it to all of you as a database that gives a pretty good sense of what the public has been thinking and really gives voice, if you will, to the middle class. the survey that we're talking about today that ed reilly's going to present has a slightly different orientation, and that is to say we're doing a little more towards what does the public want to see done as opposed to just
representative ron kirk is also on the mentioned list in terms of retiring. host: but none of those formally? guest: not official . host: has anybody said i'm sticking around? guest: that would be kind of unproforma but i think kathleen seebluss said she would like to stay because of the implementation of the health care law. no one announces that. they kind of get the word out there. there have been some talk about whether eric holder will retire but he told people he would like to stay for a year or certainly until september when we're likely to get a new f.b.i. director. host: if you're not leaving immediately at the end of the first term are you expected to stay for all four years of the second term or is there another dated where turnover occurs? guest: the way i understand it is if president obama has told people if they do stay he wants them to stay for at least a year because he doesn't want to spend all of his time filling these jobs. so the rule of thumb is if people are still in place at the end of january they'll probably stay for the entire year. host: we're taking your calls an
on panel. let's see tim is coming. tim is dc. steph my husband ron and i -- they have the homo gay on them. >> road flair mary is not going to like that. >> stephanie: we are addicted to your show. we download it so we can hear it without the commercials. two ways to enjoy me. or you can just lick my picture. >> or there is a third way to listen coming up very very -- >> stephanie: oh it is very exciting. i don't think we can announce it -- >> yet. >> stephanie: yes. >> you'll hear us on your fillings. >> stephanie: no. meet and gropes, we are in row c -- okay. let me write that down. everybody tells me what row there's in. >> we have meet and gropes and republicans have meet and mopes. see what i did there. [♪ magic wand ♪] >> stephanie: keith says steph it looks like harry reid will get a filibuster rule enacted. senator will have to hold the floor -- imagine 36 straight hours of mitch mcconnell. talking turtles. [ applause ] >> it's hour 27 of my filibuster -- >> i would rather here jimmy stewart. >> the filibuster, the right to talk your head off, the ame
off all of these massive regulations that are being planned, and now we've come to what senator ron portman -- rob portman is calling the regulatory cliff. it's going to cost american taxpayers more money, hundreds of thousands of jobs. these things are all coming to roost right now, so we are in a situation where the regulatory machine is revving up, and barack obama is going to impose these new, six new regulations under the epa alone. just one of those, which is regulating particles in the air, 680,000 jobs are going to be lost if that regulation goes through. >> can i hold you, can i hold you to that? megyn: go ahead, simon. >> let's come back in six months, a year, 18 months, and you prove those 680,000 jobs were lost because of a regulation that may or may not be promulgated. >> we'll see if it happens. >> this is ridiculous scare tactics. >> it's not scare tactics, simon. >> many of these regulations are mandated by congressional law, and it's just the basic argument behind this that somehow this president wants big government in everybody's lives is not borne out by the fact
in the house of represent tifrs. dennis kucinich and ron paul. president obama ordered more drone strikes in his first term than president bush did in his combined terms. the strike just last week killed a senior leader in pakistan near the border of afghanistan and the two congress men want president obama to release all the information and the data and detail that he ordered against many terrorists. representative kucinich joins me live. welcome back and nice to see you. >> good to be with you. >> the judiciary did address this, but me why you are challenging the president. >> it's not about challenging the president, but up holding the constitution of the united states. no president has the right to launch missile attacks on another country without congressional approval. no president has the right to take away someone's right to due process of law. they happen to be an american citizen abroad and we asked for the legal justification. that's what we are looking at. three years is a long time to wait. 300 drone strikes is enough time to say to the white house, where is your justificatio
the report to the philippines president. he was inspired by the work of ef ron pan of florida who was chosen cnn's 2009 hero of year for bringing education it to mani manila's street children through mobile push cart classrooms. he hopes to be an inspiration it to others. >> i'm representing the street children to give them hope. >> he's one special boy. you may remember one of the 2011 nominees for the children's peace prize, malala yousufzai for supporting educational rights. she's still recovering from that attack in a british hospital. >>> his film bringing the santa claus, the sandeman and easter bunny to life on the big screen. we're talk to the director of "the rise of the guardians." when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes. [ "the odd couple" theme playing ] humans. even when we cross our "t"s and dot our "i"s, we still run
that out of the hands. you know congressman ron barbour, who was congresswoman giffords' assistant and was wounded that day. he has had 20 years of experience working in the community. he understands the gun violence issue and thinks the only way to keep the high-performance magazines out of the hands of people with mental health challenges is to keep them out of the hands of everyone. i look forward to reading the full statement. chris murphy came out of the funeral and this is what he twisted. he comes out of the district of newtown. "walking out of another funeral, i was handed the nra transcript, the most revolting, tone-deaf statement i have ever seen. walking out of another funeral, i was handed the nra transcript, the most revolting, tone-deaf statement i have ever seen." thank you all very much. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> next senate ma'amty leader rarry reid and mcconnell speak. the minority leader proposed taking up legislation that passed to extend all of the bush era tax rates. this is about 15 minutes. >> last night the house of represen
this tragedy occurred. >> ron whaoerl is a former d.c. homicide detective. good morning to you. you put a series of thoughts toegt that create one theory. go ahead, explain that and then we'll talk about that. >> first of all we are dealing with a person as everybody has been saying that is possibly mentally ill. not only is he possibly mentally ill he's a very cold and calculated killer. let's look at some of the evidence that we've heard about already, bill real quickly the police have said that they have very good evidence. what could that very good evidence be? what i think it is, i think on that computer hard drive what they will find once they are able to get into it is that this guy had been researching a lot of the activity surrounding the aurora, colorado shooting and specifically the mindset of james holmes who was the shooter who had a very similar mindset to this guy lanza last week. bill: are you saying that, or do you have that on authority? >> no, no, no -- bill: that is your theory. >> this is what i believe. this is just a theory. this is what i believe. if you look at
december. here to explain how you can help is major ron bosru of the salvation army. i hope i got that right. major, thanks for joining us. i want to ask you what disaster didn't we see this year? this is one of the worst i can remember? you're always responding. is the army stretched thin? >> well the army is stretched thin. you've had the disasters we had, natural disasters, man-made disasters and as well continuing problem with the economy. a lot of people have come to the salvation army for assistance and the american people, as they do every year, responded very, very generously. we are a little bit behind where we were at this same time last year according to the figures i had earlier in the week. jamie: what is the percentage of money people give and kelly wants to assist me getting the information out, what percentage of the money people give to the salvation army actually goes to charitable work and what goes to administrative, that is a question people ask? >> sure. well over 80% for the salvation army. differs between communities but on average, well over 80%. kelly: yo
with a counteroffer on the fiscal cliff. congressman becerra is going to join us. republican ron johnson from the state of wisconsin will discuss the fiscal cliff and the negotiations for that, as well. plus the truth about all those myths that your parents told you. should you run with scissors? no, of course not. can you swim after you eat? no, of course not. the all-time jeopardy champion ken jennings has a new book out where he researchers all these myths and breaks it down. >> it's so funny. >> yes, yes. it's ahead this morning at the top of the hour on "starting point." >> oh, wow. thanks soledad. >> coming up, about catherine duchess of cambridge, right? and her royal bun in the oven and how we now have eight more months of speculation whether it's a boy or a girl, what they're going to make it. we're going to talk to elizabeth cohen when morning sickness is so terrible you go to the hospital. >> and i'm also curious about extreme morning sickness means it could be twins? elizabeth cohen is going to have all the information for us coming up. ronment. unless you have the right perspecti
. our chief political analyst gloria borger was one of the moderators with ron brownstein. what struck you, someone that covered the campaign. you learned some stuff. >> i did. first of all, wolf, this is the first time a lot of people running the campaigns actually met each other face to face. they sat around a big sfar table and had to kind of look at each other and it is so hard on the losing side. you have spent years of your life. there's a picture of the table. you spent years of your life devoted to running a presidential campaign. and if you're the loser, it's really hard. so one of the questions i asked at this panel discussion was about the infamous 47% tape and in which mitt romney said that 47% of the people wouldn't vote for him, that they felt entitled. matt rhodes who ran his campaign answered that question and we only have audio so listen to what he said. >> and i remember speaking to him and, you know, there was a lot of negativity about our campaign as a whole, but he's a person that takes personal responsibility about it. and he would tell me, you know, to me, like,
over the fiscal cliff have many tea party republicans like wisconsin senator ron johnson fuming. >> does speaker boehner speak for you? >> i don't know what he's doing behind closed doors, truthfully. nobody speaks for me, other than myself. >> reporter: but he told cnn, he won't filibuster a compromise that raises some taxes. >> we have to understand about our reality in some point in time, republicans have no power in this negotiation. there's only one person that can prevent taxes from being increased in the american public. it's the president. because without any action, without him being willing to sign a bill, taxes go up for every american. i don't want to see that happen. >> reporter: some conservatives who once had the power to say my way or the highway now realize the train has already left the station. some of these tea party republicans caution their new spirit of compromise largely depends on what the president proposes and a few of them remain convinced the president simply wants to take the country over the fiscal cliff, to gain the kind of leverage they used to h
and deductions as part of the so-called fiscal cliff. ron in indiana prepared -- indiana. caller: the first young fellow. the question that i wanted to ask. everybody is talking about raising taxes on the job creators and they will not create jobs. these bush tax cuts have been in place. how long will it take to see the job? host: what do you think of the deductions? you think they have been a part of the tax code lot of that americans cannot do without them? caller: some of them need to be part of the negotiations. middle class people, we cannot. forget them. but the average class, they get the big tax cut. -- the upper class, they get the big tax cut. the middle class does not hardly see these deductions. and especially those that give you these deductions, they give you loopholes. to curtis dubay to get a response to that. our caller was talking about if you have the means to hire someone that has the ability to look through the deductions you can get a much better break. is it fair? guest: if you do not have someone to show you how to do it, it can be hard to take them. but for the most part,
to them, the better. host: our guest is of the harvard school. ron has another point of view -- guest: one of the complicated things about this is the fiscal cliff actually is deficit- reduction. as a group concerned about big deficits and trying to find ways to reduce the deficit, you look at the fiscal cliff and you think, it actually does have the kind of changes we need to be talking about. it would have more revenue and spending cuts. the concern we have and that is prompted by ben bernanke or the congressional budget office or lot of outsiders, looking at the way the fiscal cliff is structured, where finds that it actually has too much debt as a production, and i say that as someone who generally does not worry about too much depth as a production, because politicians are so unlikely to reduce the deficit much, but if we went over the cliff, there would be in too what steps the production. takes a wax and domestic discretionary spending -- it takes a big whack at domestic discretionary spending. so we should replace the fiscal cliff with more thoughtful deficit-reduction. make sure t
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